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pyrrhus's avatar

All I can say about the current state of the US is this...I grew up in the '50s and '60s in a village of about 30.000, and we had tremendous community...Everyone would go out of their way to help neighbors, classmates, and even total strangers...And it was pretty much the same all over the country , even in the '70s and early '80s...which my brother and I explored thoroughly. on long automobile trips..even the big city....Then politicians decided that whipping up racial turmoil, and giving blacks special privileges and promotions was good for their careers...(BTW, I worked with many fine black folk, and also had them as clients, and many of them were a troubled by the use of race as a criterion for anything.). Now we have massive distrust in a fragmented society, which is starting to fall apart...

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Sam Ursu's avatar

Oh my. I was with you right up until you skewered early American history. So let's dive into that.

1) The Puritans - literally from day 1, the Puritans' biggest problem was that so many of their members were RUNNING AWAY to join other communities, initially those of the Native Americans and then later other European-origin ones in (what was to become) the United States. That's why the Puritans don't exist anymore - because people got sick of their lifestyle. There are plenty of diaries from the Mayflower era, complaining about how people in Puritan communities refused to do their fair share of (agricultural) work, gambled, played sports, etc.

2) This quote needs to be taken behind the barn and shot: "... the Articles of Confederation saw a far more limited federal government that effectively had almost no power, which the founding fathers themselves quickly realized simply did not work"

No, no, and no. The Articles of Confederation are what all those patriots fought and died for. The problem for the feds was that they financed the war through the stupidest way possible - by borrowing staggering amounts of money (see Haym Salomon for much more on this). And the FEDS couldn't pay that money back precisely because the Articles of Confederation limited their income exclusively to a few things like import tariffs.

The event that lead to the complete dismantling of the US government (officially now known as the Constitutional Convention of 1787) was billed to the public as a meeting to reform/revise the Articles of Confederation. But the reps then sealed the doors shut, MET IN SECRET (and every rep had to sign an NDA in modern terminology), and came up with a brand-new form of gov't, aka the Constitution, with the vote on passing it also made a classified secret.

In other words, something nobody (publicly) voted for and implemented without the consent of the people. And it was DEEPLY unpopular at the time (the Amendments, now so beloved, were added later only to disarm the opposition).

Keep in mind that the war started in 1775, and the articles of Confederation passed in 1781. So America was a free country for just a few years before those elitist cabal mfers took over.

And the second that the US Constitution became the new iron law, George Washington led the biggest army of his entire life (bigger than the one in the Revolutionary War) to crush the American people (the so-called Whiskey Rebellion) while simultaneously founding a new nobility class (Sons of Cincinnati) with himself as the leader (complete with statues of him in the form of an ancient Roman god).

Unfortunately, US history has been retconned, so now everyone thinks that the original patriots fought and died so they could be led by a repressive totalitarian central gov't that blatantly ignores its own Constitution (e.g. the privately owned Federal Reserve, the president declaring war w/o Congress' approval, etc).

And we wonder why America has lost its way? Shit!

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