The airline industry has been wrestling with the topic of appropriate use of automation for decades - there is a great video on you tube called “Children of the Magenta” that explores the dangers of the lack of situational awareness created by inappropriate automation- it is an old video, but the concepts and the dangers that it highlights are directly relevant to the spread of AI and personal automation
First thought: If that was available to me as a bio feedback self training/Cognitive Behavioral Therapy enabling device FOR MY OWN USE, with no data shared UNLESS I CHOSE TO? I would like to experiment with it.
Second thought? Force me to use it, being monitored and critiqued/disciplined by an employer, a military, a prison system (the obvious things an amoral neoliberal structure would use it for) and I will do my very best to kill you and the horse you rode in on.
Perhaps the concentration meter could be used as a feedback device for Zen and other meditation techniques to take us closer to God. That's the goal, isn't it?
Back in the eighties, I worried about the trail I might be leaving by calling a certain number (my coke dealer) late at night, my subsequent ATM withdrawal, my credit card gas purchase for the long drive and my attendance record for missing the next day or two at work... every few weeks or so. With just a little bit of cross-referencing, someone could have noticed the pattern. AI makes for an automated, scalable noticing of pattern. All our patterns will be noticed in ways of cross-referencing that we can barely imagine.
Thank God it's all legal now as the President needs it to stay sober, his son and Z' sleezy are coke heads, and the entire WEF is high on the internet.
"n my case it was a “fake” story that went viral, causing a clickbaity uproar on social media platforms, but had all the hallmarks of a computer-generated deepfake, including participants that hadn’t actually existed", What exactly are you referring to here?
Wish I knew. Simplicius has been uncharacteristically cagey about the whole thing. Since he's on X (Twitter), and I don't go there anymore, I assume it happened there.
When your body can be any shape you want for real most older men in the West will choose to look like Brad Pitt in his good years or Clint Eastwood or similar and most older women in the West will choose to look like Marilyn Monroe or whoever but the point is as you say that would be boring and so people will look for something that no-one else can really be, ...... i.e. themselves.
When there's always cookies in the jar who wants cookies?
Is the FED clipping the globalists wings making "cheap/free" money for the rentier class less available? The cheap money poured into tech, not to mention that deep state conduit, but it could be problematic running all this infrastructure as proxy wars/trade wars produce shortages of real stuff. And given the WEF crowds mounting failures it seems that they've spent too much time preening and looking at mirrors to be aware they're coming unstuck. And maybe their own Frankenstein creation will find them superfluous.
You are broadly correct, for details and possible outcomes go catch up on the last year of Tom Lluongo's Gold Goats and Guns posts & podcasts for your answer, you won't regret it.
And yes, the MotherWEFers are high on their own anal vapors.
Damn. If there's not a professional writer in your family, I'll eat my hat. It's astonishing to watch your writing "muscles" grow stronger with every post.
As for the content of the piece:
1) The Rabbit R1 is getting some buzz, but it's a cheap joke. However, there are already some "agents" out there in the public. One I'm aware of is an email scheduler that "talks" to another person's "schedular" in order to arrive at a mutually beneficial time for the two humans to hold a meeting.
2) We've seen a tiny bit of AI-controlled weaponry in the war in Ukraine, and Israel's had semi-autonomous machine guns for years (most of which were on the perimeter of Gaza, interestingly enough). How long before a nation decides to defend its borders with a bunch of AI-controlled guns and sensors? How long before an airport, in the "name of security" has some kind of AI-controlled taser bot? Or an AI "guard" at the entrance of a school? Etc.
3) There's a theory gaining traction called the "Dead Internet" which, in essence, agrees with the OP, that the majority of literally everything you see on the internet is now the activity of a "bot" or an AI or call-it-what-you-will. There are certainly videos of entire racks of mobile phones being operated remotely in order to spam the internet with comments, reactions, etc.
4) I do wish that these people who literally think they can cram all of human existance (including thoughts!) would look at the real-world "case study" that was the Soviet Union's GOSPLAN, which was a real effort, managed by some of the smarest computer scientists in the world, to control every single aspect of the Soviet economy with computers. And it failed, miserably. And not because the tech was insufficient. It failed the same way that idiot in the movie Jurassic Park failed to keep a lid on his dinosaurs. There will never be enough inputs or enough processing power in the entire galaxy to predict the future of even a single atom's movements.
5) Let us not forget that the world all of us live in, which is entirely dependent on the internet in some way or another, is NOT the whole world, even though it seems like it. There's an entire archipelago (Socotra) in Yemen where people don't even speak Arabic because there's literally not a single computer there, much less the internet. They sure as shit also don't have any mobile phones, bank accounts, or anything else.
6) I think the number one goal of building this "ant computer" where everyone's plugged into some digital matrix is to convert every aspect of human existance into a commodity. Why? Because capitalism is a vampire, and it's close to running out of new blood to suck dry. Not only is every tree, bird, and river becoming "commoditized" but even the ground beneath your feet and the air above your head. At some point, literally EVERYTHING will have some kind of tokenized, tradeable value, including even your thoughts, apparently. That is, if these devils succeed. But they won't because... see #4 above. But damned if they won't try.
7) I wonder how long it'll be before they outlaw all contacts with animals, including pets. Because they cannot be crammed into the ant computer.
8) Sorry to hear about your mysterious "glitch in the matrix" encounters. But please, for the love of God, do not turn into Luke Harding. Thanks :)
Sergey Brin’s parents are graduates of the Faculty of Mechanics and Mathematics of Moscow State University (1970 and 1971). His father, a former researcher at the Research Institute of Economics under the Gosplan of the USSR (NIEI at the Gosplan of the USSR), PhD in Physics and Mathematics, Mikhail Izrailevich Brin, became a teacher at the University of Maryland (now an honorary professor).
I keep wanting to know if S. uses AI to simplify and perfect his language. But then I sure use spell checker and Word always has an opinion on what I write. You work in Substack and you get some sort of score for your use of language. I always score low and need to improve.
This is why you should stop bringing your phone everywhere, or better yet, ditch the smartphone altogether. Return to reality. In your garden, no AI of any kind will make decisions for you. It's just you, your plants and God.
I early use my phone, I don’t rely on maps to get around. I mostly use cash. I never take surveys online.
I saw this American Express ad TV which I get from Amazon Prime ( I do not use Amazon or do I pay for prime) a weirdly nerdy woman is out shopping a guy is her companion advising her about her purchases. He is the Alexa of American Express. Disturbing to say the least
I just finished watching Perry Mason old shows 1956-1965. Many interesting facts. This was a time when California was more rural. The classic cars the old cars. The morality in 1956 was more strict. Everyone smoked continuously. Drinking and being intoxicated was normal. in one episode a murder victim was fly his plane to Las Vegas and always took a flask of whisky along to keep awake. He died because o
Morphine was put in the whisky. Nothing was illegal about the whisky and flying’s a plane. Although it was illegal to drink and drive a car.
The morals changed in the early 60’s with the beatniks. I was to young at the time to notice. It gave me prospective on how much TV molded the country.
It does seem as though “ There is a bad moon rising”. I don’t gamble or predict the future. However , there are morons running the country and they believe they are immune from prosecution.
I have no doubt what you describe is within the wit of man to make happen. My experience with ‘AI’ is the very helpful GPS - definitely easier than navigating by paper maps. However, as I said to friends long before AI made it to mainstream headlines: GPS makes you stupid - you stop using your brain and ‘thinking’. So while everyone loves convenience, we are selling our ability to innovate, imagine and discover.
You article also brought to mind the film, I, Robot - next we’ll read that was predictive programming!
You bring up movies. Cool. All this has been gone over in science fiction movies for some time. The brain chipping to give people ESP is in "Ghost in the Shell" and looks very good on Scarlet. Check into the Matrix for connecting us into alternative (internet realities), or Player One where you buy into the metaverse. AI evil? Hal. The Terminator. But for mind hacking you get into horror movies where Satan makes you do things you don't want to do. This is just an Animal Farm with a bad case of Catch 22.
I recently rewatch the Matrix thinking I’m sure I missed the point way back when it was released! The zionists control Hollywood alright. Another ‘insight’ is the book The Mandibles - that relates more to catastrophic financial collapse.
They are not so smart. If I start browsing for a classic widget then for the next few weeks/months I am bombarded by ads for classic widgets. If I buy a classic widget after one week, the ads continue.
Given AI requires energy and raw material inputs, which are rapidly running out on this finite planet, any perceived potential AI 'threat' is simply hot air. By end of this century human population will have descended to same as it was when we started to use fossil fuels 250 years ago i.e. under 1 billion. In other words AI in the medium and long term is corporate bull shit that'll only impact those of us who in live in the richest countries for the next few decades at most - 80% of humans will have little or no impacts from the AI monster !
Another issue re: diminishing resources is how those resources are being allocated.
E.g.: lithium is being wasted on gadgets like smart phones, electric cars, and other overproduced, overpriced, consumer items meant to be relentlessly consumed from one product to the next, that are made not for the general good and well-being of humanity or our long term survival, but to create fake money for the most ruthless among us (really currency, not money, since it's backed by little other than the imagination and will not last).
As such, nuclear scientists are concerned lithium or at least all easy, accessible supplies of it will all be wasted before they even get a chance to use it for fusion, since although there's other ways to do fusion, the processes using lithium will supposedly be the easiest to do first, or will if we have any left, anyway.
If there is any chance of averting collapse through technological means, it's as if we are doing everything in our power to minimise it. What is more important: new gadgets and garbage to create more consumer zombies, or our future ability to produce energy the way that stars do? Apparently, the former, obviously!
One wonders if nuclear power via fission wasn't a mistake to begin with. If we had never done it at all, fusion development might not be so impeded and marginalised: people think of nuclear power and think of nuclear waste and potential for disaster, as if that is anything to do with the nuclear forces themselves and not our present primitive, inefficient ways of utilising them. The Sun doesn't spit out nuclear waste, nor is there a little man in the Sun's core who has to change control rods every now and then and put them into a pool when the uranium is used up.
Net energy from nuclear fission on this pale blue dot will not happen, ever. Tritium is just one reason. Neutrons also make the containment apparatus radio active for centuries.
Even if we could get net energy from fission thermodynamics coupled with human greed would boil the oceans in a few short centuries from the waste heat generated!
Tesla free energy works exactly the way the stars work according to Mehran Keshe, its inventor. Obama blocked it with an executive order, but his new plasma technology is widely used in weapons technology, especially knocking out drones and missiles, even though all his clients must sign a global peace accord.
I would expect that based on Return on Capital, return for programming multiple AI applications would overcome energy costs and other raw material costs to be quite profitable given the necessary social acceptance which may or may not be coming.
With respect, you have no idea what you are writing. Energy is a finite resource. Money is a number on a spread sheet. If there is no energy, it doesn't matter what number you type into the spread sheet. Money can not "overcome energy costs".
The airline industry has been wrestling with the topic of appropriate use of automation for decades - there is a great video on you tube called “Children of the Magenta” that explores the dangers of the lack of situational awareness created by inappropriate automation- it is an old video, but the concepts and the dangers that it highlights are directly relevant to the spread of AI and personal automation
One similar brain tracking application already in use in Chinese schools.
https://tipsmake.com/chinese-students-wear-a-concentration-meter-to-help-parents-and-teachers-know-when-they-are-not-focused
@Frances Lynch
Before reading link?
First thought: If that was available to me as a bio feedback self training/Cognitive Behavioral Therapy enabling device FOR MY OWN USE, with no data shared UNLESS I CHOSE TO? I would like to experiment with it.
Second thought? Force me to use it, being monitored and critiqued/disciplined by an employer, a military, a prison system (the obvious things an amoral neoliberal structure would use it for) and I will do my very best to kill you and the horse you rode in on.
Seems reasonable.
Perhaps the concentration meter could be used as a feedback device for Zen and other meditation techniques to take us closer to God. That's the goal, isn't it?
Endless words, sound and fury, signifying nothing. Your stock is rapidly falling. It gives me no pleasure to be so judgmental.
I do not believe you. Go eat a bun (with no hot dog).
Back in the eighties, I worried about the trail I might be leaving by calling a certain number (my coke dealer) late at night, my subsequent ATM withdrawal, my credit card gas purchase for the long drive and my attendance record for missing the next day or two at work... every few weeks or so. With just a little bit of cross-referencing, someone could have noticed the pattern. AI makes for an automated, scalable noticing of pattern. All our patterns will be noticed in ways of cross-referencing that we can barely imagine.
Thank God it's all legal now as the President needs it to stay sober, his son and Z' sleezy are coke heads, and the entire WEF is high on the internet.
https://patrick.net/post/1282577/2015-07-07-google-is-evil
"n my case it was a “fake” story that went viral, causing a clickbaity uproar on social media platforms, but had all the hallmarks of a computer-generated deepfake, including participants that hadn’t actually existed", What exactly are you referring to here?
Wish I knew. Simplicius has been uncharacteristically cagey about the whole thing. Since he's on X (Twitter), and I don't go there anymore, I assume it happened there.
I honestly did not see you use the word cagey here until now. Apologies for mimicking your adjective.
Good reason to avoid the platform.
When your body can be any shape you want for real most older men in the West will choose to look like Brad Pitt in his good years or Clint Eastwood or similar and most older women in the West will choose to look like Marilyn Monroe or whoever but the point is as you say that would be boring and so people will look for something that no-one else can really be, ...... i.e. themselves.
When there's always cookies in the jar who wants cookies?
Excellent point and I agree wholeheartedly. I hope we make it there
Opt out now while you can . It’s not impossible.
Perhaps the opt out clause was removed in the last update to terms and conditions; the world according to Klaus "Blofeld" Schwaub.
Is the FED clipping the globalists wings making "cheap/free" money for the rentier class less available? The cheap money poured into tech, not to mention that deep state conduit, but it could be problematic running all this infrastructure as proxy wars/trade wars produce shortages of real stuff. And given the WEF crowds mounting failures it seems that they've spent too much time preening and looking at mirrors to be aware they're coming unstuck. And maybe their own Frankenstein creation will find them superfluous.
You are broadly correct, for details and possible outcomes go catch up on the last year of Tom Lluongo's Gold Goats and Guns posts & podcasts for your answer, you won't regret it.
And yes, the MotherWEFers are high on their own anal vapors.
Maybe or maybe not 😇 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-020-0494-4
But this is already reality on stock exchanges for decades now: bots are buying and selling stock. They even compete each other!
So nothing new here.
Damn. If there's not a professional writer in your family, I'll eat my hat. It's astonishing to watch your writing "muscles" grow stronger with every post.
As for the content of the piece:
1) The Rabbit R1 is getting some buzz, but it's a cheap joke. However, there are already some "agents" out there in the public. One I'm aware of is an email scheduler that "talks" to another person's "schedular" in order to arrive at a mutually beneficial time for the two humans to hold a meeting.
2) We've seen a tiny bit of AI-controlled weaponry in the war in Ukraine, and Israel's had semi-autonomous machine guns for years (most of which were on the perimeter of Gaza, interestingly enough). How long before a nation decides to defend its borders with a bunch of AI-controlled guns and sensors? How long before an airport, in the "name of security" has some kind of AI-controlled taser bot? Or an AI "guard" at the entrance of a school? Etc.
3) There's a theory gaining traction called the "Dead Internet" which, in essence, agrees with the OP, that the majority of literally everything you see on the internet is now the activity of a "bot" or an AI or call-it-what-you-will. There are certainly videos of entire racks of mobile phones being operated remotely in order to spam the internet with comments, reactions, etc.
4) I do wish that these people who literally think they can cram all of human existance (including thoughts!) would look at the real-world "case study" that was the Soviet Union's GOSPLAN, which was a real effort, managed by some of the smarest computer scientists in the world, to control every single aspect of the Soviet economy with computers. And it failed, miserably. And not because the tech was insufficient. It failed the same way that idiot in the movie Jurassic Park failed to keep a lid on his dinosaurs. There will never be enough inputs or enough processing power in the entire galaxy to predict the future of even a single atom's movements.
5) Let us not forget that the world all of us live in, which is entirely dependent on the internet in some way or another, is NOT the whole world, even though it seems like it. There's an entire archipelago (Socotra) in Yemen where people don't even speak Arabic because there's literally not a single computer there, much less the internet. They sure as shit also don't have any mobile phones, bank accounts, or anything else.
6) I think the number one goal of building this "ant computer" where everyone's plugged into some digital matrix is to convert every aspect of human existance into a commodity. Why? Because capitalism is a vampire, and it's close to running out of new blood to suck dry. Not only is every tree, bird, and river becoming "commoditized" but even the ground beneath your feet and the air above your head. At some point, literally EVERYTHING will have some kind of tokenized, tradeable value, including even your thoughts, apparently. That is, if these devils succeed. But they won't because... see #4 above. But damned if they won't try.
7) I wonder how long it'll be before they outlaw all contacts with animals, including pets. Because they cannot be crammed into the ant computer.
8) Sorry to hear about your mysterious "glitch in the matrix" encounters. But please, for the love of God, do not turn into Luke Harding. Thanks :)
Maybe Simplicius is actually the AI? :)
Duh.
Yeah I’m feeling really stupid paying a computer for content. Guess there are electric bills to pay.
Perhaps if we are nice to it NOW, it won't find a better use for our molecules LATER???
https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/4533716.Eliezer_Yudkowsky#:~:text=The%20AI%20does%20not%20hate,can%20use%20for%20something%20else.&text=Every%20mystery%20ever%20solved%20had,up%20until%20someone%20solved%20it.
Or maybe it’s better to be reincorporated than discarded? Recycling can be a plus.
Roko's basilisk!
@Factus22
Oh, THANKS. You made me think about an ELEPHANT.
Just doing my part to help summon into existence a super-intelligent AI that will rule us all. (Saying that part for the record, just in case).
Better to serve in heaven, et al.
what's interesting on number 4, is that Sergey Brin's father apparently worked for Gosplan and may have brought the algos to the US
Evidence?
Sergey Brin’s parents are graduates of the Faculty of Mechanics and Mathematics of Moscow State University (1970 and 1971). His father, a former researcher at the Research Institute of Economics under the Gosplan of the USSR (NIEI at the Gosplan of the USSR), PhD in Physics and Mathematics, Mikhail Izrailevich Brin, became a teacher at the University of Maryland (now an honorary professor).
openbusinesscouncil.org
Thank you sir.
@Sam Ursu
Or perhaps our witty commentary and repartee is helping to polish and improve the AI known as Simplicius...
I. He churns out content awfully fast, perhaps a monadic function?
II. He is awfully cagey about his nature and origins.
III. Simply sees us, The Thinker?
Eh, who knows. By the time we are sure, our new AI overlords will have the launch codes...
I keep wanting to know if S. uses AI to simplify and perfect his language. But then I sure use spell checker and Word always has an opinion on what I write. You work in Substack and you get some sort of score for your use of language. I always score low and need to improve.
This is why you should stop bringing your phone everywhere, or better yet, ditch the smartphone altogether. Return to reality. In your garden, no AI of any kind will make decisions for you. It's just you, your plants and God.
I early use my phone, I don’t rely on maps to get around. I mostly use cash. I never take surveys online.
I saw this American Express ad TV which I get from Amazon Prime ( I do not use Amazon or do I pay for prime) a weirdly nerdy woman is out shopping a guy is her companion advising her about her purchases. He is the Alexa of American Express. Disturbing to say the least
I just finished watching Perry Mason old shows 1956-1965. Many interesting facts. This was a time when California was more rural. The classic cars the old cars. The morality in 1956 was more strict. Everyone smoked continuously. Drinking and being intoxicated was normal. in one episode a murder victim was fly his plane to Las Vegas and always took a flask of whisky along to keep awake. He died because o
Morphine was put in the whisky. Nothing was illegal about the whisky and flying’s a plane. Although it was illegal to drink and drive a car.
The morals changed in the early 60’s with the beatniks. I was to young at the time to notice. It gave me prospective on how much TV molded the country.
It does seem as though “ There is a bad moon rising”. I don’t gamble or predict the future. However , there are morons running the country and they believe they are immune from prosecution.
I have no doubt what you describe is within the wit of man to make happen. My experience with ‘AI’ is the very helpful GPS - definitely easier than navigating by paper maps. However, as I said to friends long before AI made it to mainstream headlines: GPS makes you stupid - you stop using your brain and ‘thinking’. So while everyone loves convenience, we are selling our ability to innovate, imagine and discover.
You article also brought to mind the film, I, Robot - next we’ll read that was predictive programming!
You bring up movies. Cool. All this has been gone over in science fiction movies for some time. The brain chipping to give people ESP is in "Ghost in the Shell" and looks very good on Scarlet. Check into the Matrix for connecting us into alternative (internet realities), or Player One where you buy into the metaverse. AI evil? Hal. The Terminator. But for mind hacking you get into horror movies where Satan makes you do things you don't want to do. This is just an Animal Farm with a bad case of Catch 22.
I recently rewatch the Matrix thinking I’m sure I missed the point way back when it was released! The zionists control Hollywood alright. Another ‘insight’ is the book The Mandibles - that relates more to catastrophic financial collapse.
They are not so smart. If I start browsing for a classic widget then for the next few weeks/months I am bombarded by ads for classic widgets. If I buy a classic widget after one week, the ads continue.
Their intelligence will improve.
Given AI requires energy and raw material inputs, which are rapidly running out on this finite planet, any perceived potential AI 'threat' is simply hot air. By end of this century human population will have descended to same as it was when we started to use fossil fuels 250 years ago i.e. under 1 billion. In other words AI in the medium and long term is corporate bull shit that'll only impact those of us who in live in the richest countries for the next few decades at most - 80% of humans will have little or no impacts from the AI monster !
https://dothemath.ucsd.edu/2023/09/can-modernity-last/
https://justcollapse.org/
https://thehonestsorcerer.medium.com/the-end-of-growth-df4f19c28a1c
https://academic.oup.com/bioscience/article/72/8/778/6608897
etc... etc... etc...
Another issue re: diminishing resources is how those resources are being allocated.
E.g.: lithium is being wasted on gadgets like smart phones, electric cars, and other overproduced, overpriced, consumer items meant to be relentlessly consumed from one product to the next, that are made not for the general good and well-being of humanity or our long term survival, but to create fake money for the most ruthless among us (really currency, not money, since it's backed by little other than the imagination and will not last).
As such, nuclear scientists are concerned lithium or at least all easy, accessible supplies of it will all be wasted before they even get a chance to use it for fusion, since although there's other ways to do fusion, the processes using lithium will supposedly be the easiest to do first, or will if we have any left, anyway.
If there is any chance of averting collapse through technological means, it's as if we are doing everything in our power to minimise it. What is more important: new gadgets and garbage to create more consumer zombies, or our future ability to produce energy the way that stars do? Apparently, the former, obviously!
One wonders if nuclear power via fission wasn't a mistake to begin with. If we had never done it at all, fusion development might not be so impeded and marginalised: people think of nuclear power and think of nuclear waste and potential for disaster, as if that is anything to do with the nuclear forces themselves and not our present primitive, inefficient ways of utilising them. The Sun doesn't spit out nuclear waste, nor is there a little man in the Sun's core who has to change control rods every now and then and put them into a pool when the uranium is used up.
Net energy from nuclear fission on this pale blue dot will not happen, ever. Tritium is just one reason. Neutrons also make the containment apparatus radio active for centuries.
https://energyskeptic.com/?s=tritium
Even if we could get net energy from fission thermodynamics coupled with human greed would boil the oceans in a few short centuries from the waste heat generated!
Tesla free energy works exactly the way the stars work according to Mehran Keshe, its inventor. Obama blocked it with an executive order, but his new plasma technology is widely used in weapons technology, especially knocking out drones and missiles, even though all his clients must sign a global peace accord.
"Tesla free energy" is utter bull shit. Period.
I would expect that based on Return on Capital, return for programming multiple AI applications would overcome energy costs and other raw material costs to be quite profitable given the necessary social acceptance which may or may not be coming.
With respect, you have no idea what you are writing. Energy is a finite resource. Money is a number on a spread sheet. If there is no energy, it doesn't matter what number you type into the spread sheet. Money can not "overcome energy costs".
Not true if AI solves fuision. Then we are fucked.
But thank you for the hope.
AI is subject to the laws of thermodynamics ergo fusion will remain impossible on this pale blue dot. Period.