Society is at war. The split so monstrous that any perceived commiseration between the two sides is just cheap window dressing. We have become so divided that politics no longer matters. Partisanship has taken the place of genuine disagreement, drawing the battle lines along ideological bounds.
Just call it the Cultural Left or the Woke Left, and you'll be fine, my boy.
As you note, a lot of us on the Left despise the Cultural Left as much as you all do. For these Left dissenters, you may call us the Anti-Woke Left, Alternative Left or Alt Left, Economic Reductionist Left, Anti-Identity Politics Left or anti-Id Pol Left, Socially Conservative Left, etc.
Classical liberals tend to be on the Right because that's a rightwing form of economics. In this sense of Liberalism (Classical Liberalism), the politics advocates "freedom in all things" - economic freedom, political freedom, and freedom of civil rights. They tend to be suspicious of big governments of any type. "Neoliberal" economics is actually rightwing or conservative economics.
The problem is that this is confused with "liberal Democrats," a term that refers to a certain type of somewhat leftwing US politics called "social liberalism." This is the politics of liberal Democrats here in the US. This social liberalism is not found anywhere else, although Canada has something resembling it that is further to the Left. In both the US and Canada, this means a politics that is left of center yet stops short of actual social democracy. Sort of the middle ground between social democracy and centrism.
I know. It's completely confused, isn't it?
I'm quite happy that you don't see yourself as on the Right.
The way I describe our current predicament is with a phrase I coined, viz. "Farxism" i.e. an unholy alliance between (Economic) Fascism (seen with Big Corporation uniting with Big Government against the best interests of hoi polloi) and (Social) Marxism (seen with the ruthless, and never-ending, assault on the values and norms of Western society).
To reference some well known quotes, with my additional commentary:
"Bad things happens when good people do nothing."
-The Bystander Effect seems to have taken hold over too many good people, thus leaving bad people to rule the roost.
"Hard times make hard men. Hard men make good times. Good times make soft men. Soft men make hard times. Hard times make hard men..."
-I fear we are on the brink of hard times that will take the passing of a generation or two before the return of a sufficient number of hard men to restore good times.
The culture war is driven by the elites to divide and conquer the majority, keeping them away from pointing at the ownership class as the real problem. Most of the politicians espousing culture war are utter hypocrites when it comes to their own families and friends. Like Ellen and the Obamas happily chatting and interacting with GWB. Biden being best buddies with the most racist and misogynist SOB in Congress. If the governor of Florida's daughter got pregnant at 16 she would go on a "vacation" to Paris and come back not pregnant like in the old days. The "identity politics" ramped up right after Occupy Wall Street to take the focus off the 1%. Both elite sides are fully neoliberal, fully Empire and fully Zionist. And a lot of them on both sides are utterly depraved human beings.
I agree with this. The culture war has gone to a very dark and terrible place. I used to be fairly pacifist, and held certain principles about various subjects. Now, when I see these kids on X(Twitter) being trans-ed by their parents and doctors, the only thing that comes to mind is a trial & a firing squad post haste
I find myself asking over the past year and more...is this one of those “When in the course of human events...” moments in history? If not, when? What would it have to be, and what would the relative positions of the parties be at a later date?Interesting to read the Declaration again if you haven’t lately.
I also ask, trying to back away from that tree of liberty notion: will I ever really be able to renew the friendships suspended over the past four years? many of them decades or even life long but now seemingly poisoned? Can we somehow forestall a nasty divorce, and live together however coldly and guardedly, as it were, for the sake of the children (itself most agree a misguided motivation anyway)?
A past professor of mine, Carroll Quigley, argued that there really shouldn’t be (and wasn’t) all that much real difference between Rs and Ds since the American society as a whole held a common set of values reflected 90% at the base of both parties. The purpose of the two party system was merely to control corruption and periodically clean off the hull and throw the bastards out. We are as you point out here dramatically way past that now.
I am reminded of a tee shirt promoting a boxing club on the front, but on the back, before you knew that, was the simple sentence that recurs to me a lot... “Fighting solves everything”.
"California Democrats Block Bill to Make Child Sex Trafficking a Serious Felony"
This has got to be fake news. I believe that in California, all statutory rape of 14-17 year olds by men up to ten years older than each year is classed as a misdemeanor instead of a felony.
24 year old man commits statutory rape of 14 year old girl: Misdemeanor.
25+ year old man commits statutory rape of 14 year old girl: Felony
25 year old man commits statutory rape of 15 year old girl: Misdemeanor.
26+ year old man commits statutory rape of 15 year old girl: Felony
26 year old man commits statutory rape of 16 year old girl: Misdemeanor.
27+ year old man commits statutory rape of 16 year old girl: Felony
27 year old man commits statutory rape of 17 year old girl: Misdemeanor.
28+ year old man commits statutory rape of 17 year old girl: Felony
I think that's how it works. Nevertheless, this 10 or less year age difference break that men got was not extended to gay men having sex with teenage boys. All the Legislature did was equalize the penalties for gays and straights. This was played up all across the rightwing media as "California Democrats support homosexual pedophilia and sex trafficking! BS as you can see.
If you read the articles you linked to, no one on the Left in those articles is defending "pedophilia" or "child sex trafficking."
It's simply not true that people on the Left generally defend "pedophilia," although it doesn't matter if you defend or oppose it, as pedophilia and being a pedophile is 100% legal everywhere on Earth! It's simply a way of thinking or a person who thinks in a particular way. It's not illegal until you act on these urges, at which time you commit the crime of Child Molestation and become a person known as a child molester.
Now, child molestation is an actual act and child molesters are people that committed a crime, and you can of course support or oppose the crime or offender in a meaningful sense.
"Child sex trafficking" is a fake term for what really should be called "Prostitution by a Minor." "Trafficking" itself is a BS word for what has always been called "pimping." Got a pimp? Congratulations, you're now being "trafficked!" Also all teenage prostitutes, even those in business for themselves, are automatically being "trafficked." Self employed teen prostitutes are literally "trafficking" themselves! Dumb or what?
No one on the Left or Right supports minors being prostitutes. I'm not aware of one person on Earth promoting that position.
Neither the Right nor the Left supports or defends child molestation, so it's a moot issue. There are a few outliers, mostly pedophiles, who support it, but they're not necessarily left or right.
Bottom line: Every time you see those idiot words "pedophilia" or "pedophile," just substitute "child molestation" or "child molester respectively.
Now you do that and you can finally talk about this issue and make sense at the same time.
Many see moral principles as stemming from organized religion, however one might argue that they are simply our innate higher values, religions are simply stating the obvious. In this religion serves a useful purpose of steering waverers onto a better path. These culture wars are interesting (if not aggravating) as it demonstrates power brokers in society trying to create a collapse in moral vales, the real question is why though we can of course guess at some kind of "new" system of control.
Agree with you about the left label and its convenience. I voted NO as while the new left control the media, the money and the politicians there will be no easy victory. Victory there will be in time as few really want to live out a Sodom & Gomorrah fantasy of depravation while ensconced in an oppressive feudal society, even many that think they do will eventually be disgusted.
Been away from the West for a while but heading back soon, my belief system won't go over well, I can't be cancelled as not on social, but new laws are constantly emerging to fine or jail you for challenging the paradigm or irrationality. We shall see.
"Who Debunked Pizzagate Pleads Guilty to Child Rape."
More fake news! Regardless of whatever else he did, this man never raped a soul!
He's accused of:
Possession of child porn, including some of the worst kind. Merely possession of child porn does not constitute rape of one person ever.
Enticing some girls (probably teenagers) to take their clothes off on cam and send him nudes of pics of them masturbating. Men who get girls to send them sexually explicit photos of themselves do not rape a single person by doing so.
Where's the child rape? There isn't any!
Also, 40 years even for possessing CP is a ridiculous charge. I would say that in most cases, possessing child porn should have a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison. Our sentencing guidelines are ridiculously excessive.
I propose the classification for these ideological cannon fodder be "Loftists". Bear with me, we're only swapping out one letter, so I'll hit it and quit it quickly. One of the main propellants of this politicult is the myth of "permanent growth" , for without that myth intact the ideological mob would stall, as if it we're an ICE without gas. Hence, "we will fly forever, lofting over flyover country...hahah" , you get the gist. The foot soldiers hum along - as "street level' flyers, eventually committing some cheap kamikaze act - if they "really mean it". Cheers!
Because the writer doesn't come from an overtly Christian perspective, he can never plumb the depths of real evil, which are directly associated with the aboriginal purveyor of all evil; nor does he acknowledge the chosen people who are his footsoldiers, and whose Frankfurt School societal deconstruction ideology is foursquare behind everything we see now coming to fruition, as was always the intention.
Mankind's fallen and evil nature must have its full and unhindered expression, before the end comes, and righteousness is restored upon the earth.
"Only he that hinders will continue to hinder, until he be taken out of the way."
We are now entering the final phase of our existence, as was prophesied "from the beginning."
Re: 2 Sides
How about:
Common Sense Centrists, aka Ordinary Folk
vs
Partisan Maniacs enslaved to Globocap Satanists?
Paul Simplicius Watson
Just call it the Cultural Left or the Woke Left, and you'll be fine, my boy.
As you note, a lot of us on the Left despise the Cultural Left as much as you all do. For these Left dissenters, you may call us the Anti-Woke Left, Alternative Left or Alt Left, Economic Reductionist Left, Anti-Identity Politics Left or anti-Id Pol Left, Socially Conservative Left, etc.
Classical liberals tend to be on the Right because that's a rightwing form of economics. In this sense of Liberalism (Classical Liberalism), the politics advocates "freedom in all things" - economic freedom, political freedom, and freedom of civil rights. They tend to be suspicious of big governments of any type. "Neoliberal" economics is actually rightwing or conservative economics.
The problem is that this is confused with "liberal Democrats," a term that refers to a certain type of somewhat leftwing US politics called "social liberalism." This is the politics of liberal Democrats here in the US. This social liberalism is not found anywhere else, although Canada has something resembling it that is further to the Left. In both the US and Canada, this means a politics that is left of center yet stops short of actual social democracy. Sort of the middle ground between social democracy and centrism.
I know. It's completely confused, isn't it?
I'm quite happy that you don't see yourself as on the Right.
The way I describe our current predicament is with a phrase I coined, viz. "Farxism" i.e. an unholy alliance between (Economic) Fascism (seen with Big Corporation uniting with Big Government against the best interests of hoi polloi) and (Social) Marxism (seen with the ruthless, and never-ending, assault on the values and norms of Western society).
To reference some well known quotes, with my additional commentary:
"Bad things happens when good people do nothing."
-The Bystander Effect seems to have taken hold over too many good people, thus leaving bad people to rule the roost.
"Hard times make hard men. Hard men make good times. Good times make soft men. Soft men make hard times. Hard times make hard men..."
-I fear we are on the brink of hard times that will take the passing of a generation or two before the return of a sufficient number of hard men to restore good times.
The culture war is driven by the elites to divide and conquer the majority, keeping them away from pointing at the ownership class as the real problem. Most of the politicians espousing culture war are utter hypocrites when it comes to their own families and friends. Like Ellen and the Obamas happily chatting and interacting with GWB. Biden being best buddies with the most racist and misogynist SOB in Congress. If the governor of Florida's daughter got pregnant at 16 she would go on a "vacation" to Paris and come back not pregnant like in the old days. The "identity politics" ramped up right after Occupy Wall Street to take the focus off the 1%. Both elite sides are fully neoliberal, fully Empire and fully Zionist. And a lot of them on both sides are utterly depraved human beings.
I agree with this. The culture war has gone to a very dark and terrible place. I used to be fairly pacifist, and held certain principles about various subjects. Now, when I see these kids on X(Twitter) being trans-ed by their parents and doctors, the only thing that comes to mind is a trial & a firing squad post haste
I find myself asking over the past year and more...is this one of those “When in the course of human events...” moments in history? If not, when? What would it have to be, and what would the relative positions of the parties be at a later date?Interesting to read the Declaration again if you haven’t lately.
I also ask, trying to back away from that tree of liberty notion: will I ever really be able to renew the friendships suspended over the past four years? many of them decades or even life long but now seemingly poisoned? Can we somehow forestall a nasty divorce, and live together however coldly and guardedly, as it were, for the sake of the children (itself most agree a misguided motivation anyway)?
A past professor of mine, Carroll Quigley, argued that there really shouldn’t be (and wasn’t) all that much real difference between Rs and Ds since the American society as a whole held a common set of values reflected 90% at the base of both parties. The purpose of the two party system was merely to control corruption and periodically clean off the hull and throw the bastards out. We are as you point out here dramatically way past that now.
I am reminded of a tee shirt promoting a boxing club on the front, but on the back, before you knew that, was the simple sentence that recurs to me a lot... “Fighting solves everything”.
"California Democrats Block Bill to Make Child Sex Trafficking a Serious Felony"
This has got to be fake news. I believe that in California, all statutory rape of 14-17 year olds by men up to ten years older than each year is classed as a misdemeanor instead of a felony.
24 year old man commits statutory rape of 14 year old girl: Misdemeanor.
25+ year old man commits statutory rape of 14 year old girl: Felony
25 year old man commits statutory rape of 15 year old girl: Misdemeanor.
26+ year old man commits statutory rape of 15 year old girl: Felony
26 year old man commits statutory rape of 16 year old girl: Misdemeanor.
27+ year old man commits statutory rape of 16 year old girl: Felony
27 year old man commits statutory rape of 17 year old girl: Misdemeanor.
28+ year old man commits statutory rape of 17 year old girl: Felony
I think that's how it works. Nevertheless, this 10 or less year age difference break that men got was not extended to gay men having sex with teenage boys. All the Legislature did was equalize the penalties for gays and straights. This was played up all across the rightwing media as "California Democrats support homosexual pedophilia and sex trafficking! BS as you can see.
If you read the articles you linked to, no one on the Left in those articles is defending "pedophilia" or "child sex trafficking."
It's simply not true that people on the Left generally defend "pedophilia," although it doesn't matter if you defend or oppose it, as pedophilia and being a pedophile is 100% legal everywhere on Earth! It's simply a way of thinking or a person who thinks in a particular way. It's not illegal until you act on these urges, at which time you commit the crime of Child Molestation and become a person known as a child molester.
Now, child molestation is an actual act and child molesters are people that committed a crime, and you can of course support or oppose the crime or offender in a meaningful sense.
"Child sex trafficking" is a fake term for what really should be called "Prostitution by a Minor." "Trafficking" itself is a BS word for what has always been called "pimping." Got a pimp? Congratulations, you're now being "trafficked!" Also all teenage prostitutes, even those in business for themselves, are automatically being "trafficked." Self employed teen prostitutes are literally "trafficking" themselves! Dumb or what?
No one on the Left or Right supports minors being prostitutes. I'm not aware of one person on Earth promoting that position.
Neither the Right nor the Left supports or defends child molestation, so it's a moot issue. There are a few outliers, mostly pedophiles, who support it, but they're not necessarily left or right.
Bottom line: Every time you see those idiot words "pedophilia" or "pedophile," just substitute "child molestation" or "child molester respectively.
Now you do that and you can finally talk about this issue and make sense at the same time.
“Left” really is --- FASCIST.
Why is this soooo difficult to say ???
A side question:
Why one can no longer find “No country for old men” anywhere?
I tried and tried to find it -- only a Spanish language movie is available...
Very strange.
Many see moral principles as stemming from organized religion, however one might argue that they are simply our innate higher values, religions are simply stating the obvious. In this religion serves a useful purpose of steering waverers onto a better path. These culture wars are interesting (if not aggravating) as it demonstrates power brokers in society trying to create a collapse in moral vales, the real question is why though we can of course guess at some kind of "new" system of control.
Agree with you about the left label and its convenience. I voted NO as while the new left control the media, the money and the politicians there will be no easy victory. Victory there will be in time as few really want to live out a Sodom & Gomorrah fantasy of depravation while ensconced in an oppressive feudal society, even many that think they do will eventually be disgusted.
Been away from the West for a while but heading back soon, my belief system won't go over well, I can't be cancelled as not on social, but new laws are constantly emerging to fine or jail you for challenging the paradigm or irrationality. We shall see.
"Who Debunked Pizzagate Pleads Guilty to Child Rape."
More fake news! Regardless of whatever else he did, this man never raped a soul!
He's accused of:
Possession of child porn, including some of the worst kind. Merely possession of child porn does not constitute rape of one person ever.
Enticing some girls (probably teenagers) to take their clothes off on cam and send him nudes of pics of them masturbating. Men who get girls to send them sexually explicit photos of themselves do not rape a single person by doing so.
Where's the child rape? There isn't any!
Also, 40 years even for possessing CP is a ridiculous charge. I would say that in most cases, possessing child porn should have a maximum sentence of 10 years in prison. Our sentencing guidelines are ridiculously excessive.
Just because Lenin changed his Party's name from Bolshevik Party to Communist Party, circa 1919, doesnt make them communists...
As for Child Abuse:
whether the kids are school-schooled or home-schooled
schooling is still Child Abuse !
I propose the classification for these ideological cannon fodder be "Loftists". Bear with me, we're only swapping out one letter, so I'll hit it and quit it quickly. One of the main propellants of this politicult is the myth of "permanent growth" , for without that myth intact the ideological mob would stall, as if it we're an ICE without gas. Hence, "we will fly forever, lofting over flyover country...hahah" , you get the gist. The foot soldiers hum along - as "street level' flyers, eventually committing some cheap kamikaze act - if they "really mean it". Cheers!
I always do my part in toxic online discussions :D
Because the writer doesn't come from an overtly Christian perspective, he can never plumb the depths of real evil, which are directly associated with the aboriginal purveyor of all evil; nor does he acknowledge the chosen people who are his footsoldiers, and whose Frankfurt School societal deconstruction ideology is foursquare behind everything we see now coming to fruition, as was always the intention.
Mankind's fallen and evil nature must have its full and unhindered expression, before the end comes, and righteousness is restored upon the earth.
"Only he that hinders will continue to hinder, until he be taken out of the way."
We are now entering the final phase of our existence, as was prophesied "from the beginning."