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Sam Ursu's avatar

Whew, your hand was strong when writing this one! Got some real HP Lovecraft vibes there, especially the first few paragraphs.

A couple of notes:

1) I've said it before, and I'll say it again - if you don't believe that a Higher Power/God exists, then sooner or later, you'll start believing that human beings are God/the Highest Power.

2) Believe it or not, a civilization once intentionally DID build their foundation on a soft, marshy soil prone to flooding - Teotihuacan.

3) Rousseau lived so long ago that modern folks have forgotten the context in which he was living, especially the effects that Paul Le Jeune had on him. Le Jeune was a missionary to "New France" or what we'd call Canada today, and he wrote a supremely influential book called "Relations des Jésuites de la Nouvelle-France." In it, he described having many, many conversations with the natives on topics like liberty and freedom, you know, the same shit that Rousseau did a century later.

Effectively, the natives told the Jesuits "your civilization sucks" to which the Jesuits were forced to come up with counter-arguments, and what Le Jeune did was more or less "transcribe" these debates. Keep in mind that this was the FIRST time in centuries of European history that anyone had seriously questioned the status quo, including stuff like hierarchies (what kind of gov't structure is good), freedom (who can tell who what to do) and equality (are some people born "better" than others).

Remember, before the two big revolutions in France and USA, it was just assumed that the natural order of things was: 1) there is a class of people (nobles) who are just born superior, 2) the head of the gov't can tell anyone what to do, including enslave them (lack of freedom) and 3) that permanent hierarchies are the only way to govern a society. And the natives challenged all that, which Le Jeune was unusual in that he didn't dismiss them as "barbarian morons" and this percolated through French society down to Rousseau's day, when he famously wrote his weird thesis about these concepts.

3b) Speaking of which, it always blows my mind that Americans think that ideas like a representative form of government or a non-permanent/non-dynastic ruler/leader appeared spontaneously out of thin air, or that these concepts were "self-evident." They sure as fuck weren't. Those concepts all came from the indigenous inhabitants of North America.

Rousseau certainly knew it, but now modern people have forgotten HOW he knew it and are locked in a box that says "only Europeans ever invent anything" hence the endless circular firing squad of what passes for intellectual debate.

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Godfree Roberts's avatar

"The world is welcoming, in other words. It was built by your ancestors, and they imagined you long before you arrived. They wondered what sort of work you might do, before you knew there is such a thing as work. Your parents may have recognized the echo of sibling or a parent in your face as you sought the nipple. They smiled at you”.

The Chinese world is like that. Has been for yonks. Works very well.

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